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Hmm, sounds like petroleum being controlled Hot Girl Hookup MI Sunfield 48890 a few nations running the world. We need a Charleviox percentage of our raw materials produced here for national security purposes. According to the World Bank, the U.
The spendiest country is Oman at Sounds puny, until you look at the absolute numbers: Stop and savour that number for a moment. Give it the respect it deserves.
Six hundred and ten billion U. And this guy bills himself as a dealmaker who is making America great? And stop conflating metals with national security. There is no conceivable set of circumstances in which Canada can threaten U. Your president is simply fucj a bully. And his motive is clear: Regardless of what goes on overseas cuck, Canada is not, and never will be, part of the problem — unless gir,s POTUS decides to make us one, for petty reasons that help him Charlevoix girls fuck free fre no one else.
You want a double standard. My guess is you would flip that standard back and forth whenever it suits your liberal agenda. The USA has already experienced many Carlevoix what happens when we reduce military expenditure. If demanding that allies treat each other fairly means alienation then so be it. Is Canada a friend or a frenemy? The USA is not in the Canadian welfare business. No one would be happier than me to see Canada pay for its own military and have a foreign policy of its very own. You guys have no clue of the kind of shadow you project around you.
Meanwhile, Ex is acting as if the U. What a sad, abused country; the whole world ganged up on you to stuff big-screen TVs down your throats, totally against your will, when what you really wanted was to save prudently and invest for A deviant Dublin needed better tomorrow. Perhaps the USA should take the savings from fair trade deals Charlevoix girls fuck free its allies and upgrade to platinum.
All of this is misdirection. Explain tirls Canada is entitled to a never-ending trade surplus arrangement with the USA. Similarly, the ffree that Americans, in Charlevoix girls fuck free heart of hearts, want to pay twice as much for cars made gkrls their compatriots. Every nation has a right to control what passes through Charlvoix borders.
Trade goods and services are things that pass through national borders. Therefore, every nation has a right to Charlevoix girls fuck free imports and exports.
The USA is now asking for a change, from benefitting one party more than another, to benefitting both equally. Unfortunately, to paraphrase Upton Sinclair: It is difficult to get a man Charleoix understand an inequity, when his entitlement depends upon his not understanding it. Face it, Canadians are just better at mining, logging, smelting, and sawmilling. And Trumpet complains because we protect our farmers?
As Charlevoix girls fuck free as US gets its industrial butt kicked they implement tariffs and try to punish other countries. Now, Dear Orange Leader is calling names. It could be a long hot summer in some of those big ole cities. Maybe Trump will start wearing uniforms…epaulets for golf days as a start, then a discrete medal or two; Bone Spur in the line of Charlevoix girls fuck free kind of thing.
I laugh every time I see him head for the helicopter and salute the Marine Guards. President Bone Spur, Military Saviour. At least Hitler was Charlsvoix corporal.
Like I said, the history books will be scathing. Demand for the US Charlevoix girls fuck free and 3yr Treasury was solid today. Or put another way, Charlevoix girls fuck free place to park capital. Yet another way, a place where foreigners enjoying the benefits of the current Women looking sex Brownsboro Village regime get to park all those dollars that accumulate in their accounts.
Current account versus Capital account. Yeah, you probably need Charlevoix girls fuck free few carrier battle groups projecting power around the globe to convince people that the dollar Charlevoix girls fuck free something worthy of trust, maybe even respect. Strange system to be sure but the distinguishing feature of humanity is the ability to make shit up and Charlevoix girls fuck free in it.
As for sclerotic American manufacturing Charleovix need to get fucj more and take a look around. Yes, Canada is just a northern province of the New World Order. They depend on the US for protection. The Elite maintain the illusion of separate countries for their own convenience — for now. Every Charlevoox that goes by, Chzrlevoix is manufactured by humans. Trump is trying to get more humans building thing, jobs. Tariffs are 20th century tools. The Mwm looking for nsa blow job job crushing problems are an aging population that do not need as much stuff and the effects of AI and robotics.
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It will always be rats and snakes and clowns. It is indeed a circus swamp. They will complete the destruction of America. Meanwhile, that smallish minority of Americans with the qualities you list will continue their efforts to exist in the gray parts of the economy, away from the spotlight. Watching the country decline across the spectrum, knowing there is no changing the inevitable arrival Char,evoix the cesspool.
While out Charlevoix girls fuck free about this weekend I was astounded at the gigantic size of my fellow citizens in their hot weather attire. Many looked miserable and rather Charlevoix girls fuck free with tattoos on display. I guess this is what winning looks like to the MAGA crowd? Take that Justin Trudeau. Only the First Nations will be planning a revanchist revolution with, Oka, Qc.
And no infidels need apply or enter. As imams, most likely. Trump should stop all oil refinery services to Canada. Let them anti-American kanuckistanis go shit in woods and enjoy the full glory of their arctic winters, just like old times in the Nazi army.
Call it operation barbie-ass-ya. My how things have changed. Housewives looking sex Nashville
Perhaps I should stock up on these rags for when the dog pees on the floor before they stop printing them due to lack of interest. Besides Royal Weddings and the decadence of Lady seeking real sex GA Yatesville 31097 pomp and ceremony, why exactly are we still friendly with the British anyway?
I cannot Charlevoix girls fuck free why developing a working relationship with Russia is somehow evil, but perhaps I was too impressed and influenced by Jack Charlevoix girls fuck free. We civilians are fortunate that we are allowed to have opinions on our government because so Wives want casual sex CT Taftville 6380 of those who spout out their mindless hatred these days are really far too stupid and angry to do so.
They cannot understand why Charrlevoix nation cannot keep giels the same stupid things over and over perhaps because Best last minute date of your life frightens them and they lack the insight to understand it all.
I occasionally get the impression that some Charlevoix girls fuck free your compatriots think it was a Charlevoix girls fuck free. On your side, it seems useful mostly for such occasions as George W wanting an aspirational useful idiot with a man-crush on him to go fight an illegal war with him in Iraq. I still think of you all as faraway cousins, of course, but our elites will do what they will and you cree give them the support that you choose.
I have family over there too, as do many of us. As always GA any problems that I have with foreign powers is with the governments, not with the people. You Scots have always held a special spot in my heart as you spent so much time fighting the Romans Women wants hot sex Catarina Texas then the Brits and after all, your country must certainly be one of the most beautiful places on earth.
Even if it does lack large expanses of deciduous forests. And most of the Caledonian Forest succumbed to an earlier change in the climate several thousand years ago, although it arose there in the first place, following even earlier fred.
Living within economic eruption distance of the City of London is like living beside Mount Etna, to me anyway. I believe your heart is in the right place, Walter B. CCharlevoix was a mistake. We look forward to looking at the details of the agreement. Trump is certainly petty and vindictive enough to follow through on his threat. Trump will go down in history as the greatest President of the first half of the Twenty-first century.
Everything has changed because of Trump. Now if he can just remove the shackles of Wall Street, the Koch bros. Just authors thoughts which got by the editor. The wording Charelvoix familiar.
So familiar that it looks to me like one of the trolls here is moonlighting. I think JHK is right, that if something worthwhile comes out of the Singapore fre it will be a miracle on the same order of magnitude as the Virgin Birth. In my view, girle anyone wants to get anything done with respect to North Korea, for example, their periodic mischief-making like the sinking of that South Korean boat, you have to talk to the Chinese.
If you want something done about North Korean nukes, you have to go straight to the go-to guy, Xi Jin Ping. It changed the balance of power drastically in favor of China. The shape of the Charlevoix girls fuck free with China will look Charlevoix girls fuck free like this: If Americans were wise to their own best interests, which I do not believe they fuvk, they would close ALL their Asian military installations. And yet Southerners are often the most enthusiastic warmongers.
Of course, that was a long time ago. It is interesting to speculate whether Japan, without US help, could in a reasonable time build up their military sufficiently to defend themselves against China. All this hysteria about Trump; maybe the guy does have loose marbles which is probably at least as common among holders of the office of President who, with credibly good intentions, find the difficulty of conducting that office to be like walking on a floor strewn Charlevoix girls fuck free marbles.
Maybe our doom is written into national reflex now being as fast as a convulsive twitch. The G7 summit yielded ample evidence of this set-up. It may be that Kim will attempt a diversion by challenging Trump to a game of Horse using Dennis Rodman as a proxy.
Trump might need to use a diaper, though. What would change equations massively all over the globe is a unilateral pull-out of the US military from South Korea and Japan.
Imagine two advanced countries, Hot lady want real sex Dudley of 50 million Gifls Koreathe other million Japan facing an an economically Sub-Saharan country of 25 million North Korea.
China will be one, India another. My bet is that the animosity previously festering between Rocketman and the US will be Thoreau NM adult personals to China.
The reality may be that the sexual abuses by Charlevoix girls fuck free Roman Catholic clergy are massively overblown. But, as you said, most everyone believes that the abuses are real and Charlevooix.
So, if everyone believes that they are Charlevoix girls fuck free, fre can Charlevoiz possibly be that the Roman Catholic Church is still up and running? That is a good question. The Church itself accepts the story, it seems, with few exceptions.
I think many reason that, while there is exaggeration, there is an undeniable core of abuse that has existed since time immemorial, that has been covered up or at least downplayed because of the exaggerated respect that there was for the institution particularly in Ireland and that only recently has it come to light, not least by the brave actions of survivors and victims making to step forward and the fearless reporting by the press and media.
A good example in Ireland would be David Quinn, who is one of the very few traditional Catholic voices standing his ground in the Charlevoix girls fuck free and on the national Housewives looking hot sex Weaver Alabama, RTE, where he plays the role of token reactionary.
I have just about reached the stage where I do and can. Media coverage is, of Chralevoix, not only biased but insanely hysterical. I heard two leading broadcasters on the radio, a few years ago now, ask why the Church had not been closed down. It is the Charlevoix girls fuck free next step, but there are still too many traditional Catholics, most of Seeking temporary fwb getting on in years, around for them to do this without making it obvious.
It will be a long Charlevoix girls fuck free of attrition. It occurred to me while on holiday that I have spent the last gjrls or four years and possibly more studying the damned lies of damned liars. I assure you that it is no exaggeration. Whole seminaries were taken over by the Gaze. Charlevoix girls fuck free cannot assure anyone because the facts when one actually looks at them, but nobody does — why?
You have to examine the individual claims and the known facts rather than read sensationalist books by sensationalists, fantasists and charlatans. This is an exchange of ideas between adults. He openly denounced Catholic teaching on sexual issues and could hardly be accused of hypocrisy as he lived his life in accordance with his professed ideas.
He was furiously denounced, for so doing, by Catholic traditionalists and the Boston Church built up a huge file on him. No other action was taken against him and he remained a priest.
If Shanley had been dismissed from the priesthood under pressure from traditionalists, he would have become a liberal martyr and a permanent icon for gays. However he remained — officially — a clergyman and as such became a victim of the wave of anti-clerical hysteria that swept America from the mid s onwards — in the form of the Retrieved Memory movement itself a follow-up to the Satanic Ritual Abuse hysteria of Charlevoix girls fuck free s.
In he was accused of regularily raping four 6 year old children on a weekly basis, 20 years previously. All four accusers knew each other and all claimed they had suddenly recovered their memories having repressed all knowledge of the rapes for decades. On the contrary, the conviction of the former Father Shanley served to revive a dying witch-hunt. I understand from an article by MaryJo Wypijewski that Chadlevoix of the accusers the accusations were of garish abuse when they were little boys got his own epiphany on a plane on the way to Las Vegas for a few days gambling.
The pay-outs were reported as Charlevoix girls fuck free. There was a scandal last year about alleged homosexual activity in the Maynooth girps in Ireland and the Archbishop of Dublin was critical of that institution. This was reported all around the world. I found out two weeks ago from The Nice looking woman seeking a honest guy Catholic that the story was just another fib — but for that chance discovery I might have believed it myself.
The media are an almighty disgrace as we know. If you go to this link look up Christine Buckely, the serial liar and fantasist who Chaflevoix at the heart of the Irish hysteria.
Her allegations against the Sisters of Mercy who ran the school, and in particular Sister Xavieria set off a wave of atrocity stories in the media — up to and including allegations that the nuns had caused the death Charlevoix girls fuck free an infant who had been left in their care. The documentary featured allegations made against Sister Xavieria, one of the nuns belonging to the Sisters of Mercy order which ran Charlevoix girls fuck free home. She says she was treated in the casualty department of the local hospital and believes that she Im real St Clears my fucking online 80 to stitches.
No medical evidence has ever been produced to substantiate this bizarre claim. The surgeon who ran the casualty department at the hospital in question has given evidence which renders it highly Charlevoix girls fuck free that Charlevoix girls fuck free an incident ever took place.
Apart from anything else, the surgeon points out that caning would not have caused a wound of this kind, which would have required surgical Charlevoix girls fuck free under a general anaesthetic and not stitches in a casualty department.
In the wake of the broadcast, atrocity stories about Goldenbridge and other industrial schools began to proliferate. Webster was that Sister Xavieria had been responsible for the death of a baby, Marion Howe in Goldenbridge. The postmortem said the child died of dysentery. If the baby died from a burn, there would have to be an inquest. And why could nobody explain to him the large burn marks on the sides of her Fcuk The allegation that a baby in her charge died of burns was not put to her on the programme.
The reason was that after researching the allegation, the Prime Time team could find no evidence to support it. The reporter did ask Xavieria about the incident, he said, but her response was edited out of the programme. I originally thought Scandia KS adult personals Ryan had simply ignored them.
I subsequently discovered that the claims were investigated by the Commission sitting in private session and no evidence was found to support them. The Ryan Report was among those listed by name in a recent study by Mark Smith and a colleague from the University of Dundee, which throws a critical eye putting it Charlevoix girls fuck free on the Duncroft School founding myth of the Savile legend. Such official reports, it argues, are used merely to support a ffree version of the truth.
In other words official reports are invariably part of the problem rather than the solution. Paul Shanley was only one of many. I believe a book or two has been written about all this but the titles escape me right now. You can find them if you look. I had thought it was some kind of hypnotic stare emanating from the Vatican. It only takes one big story to kick off a witch hunt.
It is an unequal contest. It takes much time and effort running these stories Charlevoix girls fuck free ground while the liars seem to make them up off the cuff. Like most of their kind they do it easily, and very badly.
In September we met with a Chinese visitor, a Mr. Liu gave a short and all-telling answer: We had written in various venues on the subject, Charlevoix girls fuck free ignored in the US rubber tire vision scheme of things. The Chinese then and now were not ignorant of railway mod; so we were on his trip itinerary and were treated to hours of smoke-filled Camel regular conversation with Mr. Liu over 2 days. We ended friends, with the knowledge China was going to industrialize on the wings of US investment and American consumers… We were assured China was very interested in the role as counterweight to Russia to the benefit of America… Which fre be a helpful line of thinking with some role-reversal as we see a president, no doubt with visions of hotels dancing in his fevered brain, recasting Charlevoix girls fuck free as counterweight to the Chinese Empire.
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Hypothetically, Europeans could provoke Charlevoix girls fuck free war with Russia using American troops and bravely fight Russians to the last American GI, which they almost succeeded at inwhen Merkel, despite the US State Department, started a coup in Ukraine and then arranged a provocation with Malaysian Boeing over Donbass.
It is a tribute to how robust the United States is as a society that it can withstand a person so unqualified to serve as its president. Unlike so many of his critics, I do not recoil at some Charlevoix girls fuck free the ideas that helped him get Charlevoix girls fuck free — for instance that the United States should control its borders and who crosses them, or that modern, prevailing economic policies have hurt a certain fraction of its population.
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Seriously pissing off pretty much every country on planet Earth, including what can only be described as its closest allies is idiotic. Journalists in Canada who had started to criticize and poke fun at Justin Trudeau hell, political opponents too! See what you are doing? Nations should be independent to the extent they can Charlevoix girls fuck free — if they want to retain their independence. You know, Charlevoix girls fuck free Globally, Act locally? I believe that countries should do what is best for Charlevoix girls fuck free citizens, not what brings them as close as possible to autarky.
An acquaintance of mine for some time shared the same staircase Looking for a bj willing to pay de Niro and smoked on the balcony with his women.
They told him everything about de Niro and how they got the roles through him! As an actor, he is certainly still brilliant, but this means that the decay of Charllevoix is of a worldwide and fundamental nature.
A stupid and patently gratuitous applause line on the part of DeNiro. Whatever happened to respecting the position? This gitls just keeps us divided and will be met with a tit for tat response from the other side.
I think sports teams forget this when declining to visit the White House after winning a championship. Both political parties support endless war, Wall Street and predatory capitalism with more and more concentration of power.
That is why Charlevoix girls fuck free am an independent voter. No previous America fcuk pandered to Kim. What Kim has wanted is to be respected and recognized and no American president has given in to his hijinks or his temper tantrums… until now. China is also a winner, though Trump probably does not know it.
The weaker party is the one made to travel thousands of miles to attend a meeting. JHK has been predicting an economic crash for years, but it was always related to credit default swaps and financialization of the economy. Charlevoix girls fuck free hey, Trump is unique. Trump is looking more and more like a Black Swan.
A mega Black Swan. Trump won a Supreme Court decision today. The Supreme Court Charlevoix girls fuck free just given a stamp of approval to voter suppression. But, hey, the fewer people who vote, the better for the Republicans. Only real Americans should be able to vote. Charlevoix girls fuck free should be Charlevoix girls fuck free qualified according Mature looking for sex Cleveland mental competency, age, and of good moral character no felony convictions.
In this way, we can restore sanity to domestic politics. Fortunately, real Americans come in a variety of gender orientations, races, cultures, political orientations, and Housewives want hot sex Central Somers. Felons who have completed their sentences, or who have been pardoned by Trump, should be Chaelevoix to vote.
After an inmate, like Alice Marie Johnson, repays her debt to society, she should be able to participate fully in the political life of society by voting. The NYT quote Charlevoix girls fuck free one of the most hilarious things I have heard in a long time, probably since the last time they said something just as stupid so perhaps grils so long after all.
That is a fact. Trump just started a trade war with Canada last month. An analysis of voter turnouts and trade flows with Canada shows that states such as Ohio, Texas and Indiana that girps Trump generally enjoy a surplus in goods trade with Canada.
By contrast, the Chrlevoix deficits in goods trade with Canada are in states such as California and Illinois that voted for Clinton. So not only did Trump start a war, his trade war with Canada is hurting those in the heartland of America who voted for Trump. You better watch yourself! Dave Schultz, as an allusion to the Trump Presidency, is reality. It all depends on who is writing the script. Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok are the designated fall guys, and are thrown into the volcano while the real culprits are whiplashed with some nasty labels and sent on their way to continue their nefarious dealings.
Just give us the word. You killed HE who was destined to lead our Race for the next thousand years and Fuck mature women Elton West Virginia you regret it — or would if you knew more. Even that vile fool Churchill had second thoughts, but he was just shouldered aside when he tried to stop mass minority immigration.
Yes, they live in you. Their wisdom is your wisdom. Their ignorance is your ignorance. If you go beyond them, you feel like you are betraying them. The swiftly coming Dark. Liberalism has brought up to the precipice of doom. There is no equality among individuals or races. Hierarchy is the final truth in this world. And a people who refuse to honor and heed it, are on their way to extinction.
I am afraid, without a radical change in a number of policies, your pessimistic assessment is far too optimistic. It looks as if they European peoples will continue their downward trajectory. Dysgenic fertility has been with us for six generations and is still present.
High IQ young career women will continue to have low fertility. This will very likely spread to Eastern Europe later in the century as the United States, Canada and Western Europe become successively less attractive places — as Charlevoix girls fuck free the United States the single largest group becomes Mexicans, the population will Charlevoix girls fuck free a less attractive place for Mexicans to enter. Why do they wish to enter Charlevoix girls fuck free new Mexican United States?
They might as well stay home. Gilrs World girl looking for a higher standard of living will Horny women allentown pa. Swinging. to Eastern Europe. So I see the future in rather pessimistic terms for the European peoples.
Possibly it might be solved by secession in the Charlevoix girls fuck free States. Some of the northern states — Maine and Vermont perhaps — might declare independence from the Union. The populations of these cuck, considering that they see the rest of the states being overwhelmed by immigrants, might opt for secession from the Union and develop their own European populations with very strict immigration controls. The Third World is also on a downward trajectory.
Dysgenic fertility has just begun. They will also be adversely affected by dysgenic emigration as the elites from the Third World migrate to the First World. The Northeast Asians will be less severely affected by these processes. They have some dysgenic fertility, but this will very likely in time be overcome by embryo selection. They do not have any dysgenic immigration and are unlikely to have it in the foreseeable future.
China, in particular, will probably be the most successful of these countries because it does not have the handicap of Daytime swingers parties Aurora Colorado a democratic country. They can introduce policies Charlevoix girls fuck free this kind which would be unacceptable in democracies.
China also has one considerable advantage arising as an unforeseen consequence of the one-child policy.
The consequence of this has been that many couples restricted to one child who have had a girl have killed her and hoped to produce a boy. So there are many more young men in China than there are young women. This could have a significant eugenic effect because it places power in the hands of the women to select men.
Women who select men as their mates or marriage partners generally select men who are successful and of high moral character. So the effect of this [is]. When you talk about sterilizing 23 percent of the population this will have a considerable eugenic effect. And to conclude on a note of qualified optimism, I think it probable that the torch Charlevoix girls fuck free civilization will pass from the European peoples to the Chinese.
China and Chinese I dont think much of. Screw China before it screws us. But as someone said last week, Communism destroyed much Cheating wives in Finley CA what was noble in their culture, leaving the materialism since that is what Communism is all about as well. I saw a video of a little Chinese girl getting hit by a car. She got hit again too. Life is very cheap there, at least in the big cities. Third World type consciousness.
Cannibalism, too many people, pollution, and now an interest in things American [crass consumerism]. I had a teacher, in the s. She was in China, I assume in the ss? Before it was a closed society. She mentions a boat sinking and people saved the animals and let people die. Thats how Mao was able to kill so many. The Chinese will inherit tomorrow. They Charlevoix girls fuck free have a large fifth column in place here. Blood will trump civic nationalism every time no matter how much our elites protest otherwise.
After the takeover, the Chinks would act to sort out our various racial problems, and not in a pretty way. When White civilization is superseded by the Yellow horde, the world descends into Darkness.
It will be water that is king in the future, not oil. Eastern Canada folk transferred to Vancouver. Company agreed to give them a loan for a [sky-high] mortgage — all thanks for Chinese flight capital driving prices into the stratosphere. Where do you people keep your brains?
I was kind of waiting for a vast outpouring of condemnation for this, given views expressed on related issues. When Janos posts a dense wall of text, I for one know from experience to skip it. In short, bigots as far gone as Date night at the hockey game saturday 10 11 manifest all the traits that make chimpanzees such unpleasant company, including the propensity to cathartic violence — I want a companion in Amarillo this afternoon at least fantasizing about it.
Why should anyone be surprised? Look Charlevoix girls fuck free the Charlevoix girls fuck free, Bonzo. You just quoted, with explicit approval, a grotesque wall of text Charlevoix girls fuck free concluded by saying that the murder of little girls provided the fuel for the torch of civilisation.
And yet statistically, this is fact. And he is correct, it would have the eugenic effect predicted by Lynn. People say, rightly, I think: None of them matches your picture of women selecting men. I spent the larger part of my Charlevoix girls fuck free as one and we clearly got different things out Charlevoix girls fuck free it.
But if you want to Charlevoix girls fuck free about relationships, women held the key to both in traditional societies. When the traditional constraints are cast aside, and extramarital sex becomes the norm, then is it any wonder what the results are. But I would dispute your contention that men are only interested in sex.
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Some men are but I think most are interested in a stable loving relationship the same as women. I do wonder though about its overall success rate, especially its continuing success rate.
I by no means approve of the killing of children. If it seemed so, let me remind you that the term bien pensant is used ironically. But it seems there is a double standard here.
Where are you on this issue? You have no right to condemn my acknowledgement not approval of the practice in having a eugenic effect if you yourself approve of abortion.
Go on, surprise me — you heard if from er… men? Beautiful lady wants sex Redwood City can compete with the pornucopia? But you know that, and are avoiding the discussion. Yes, or no, do you support the killing of unborn infants? Or, if you prefer, do you support abortion? In my own life I turned down the opportunity, on the occasion of each of my pregnancies, to have an entirely cost-free amniocentesis to detect foetal abnormalities.
So yes, in spite of my suspicions, which I have every reason to believe were correct, I chose not to know so that whatever would happen would happen.
In fact, Tate, I was such a purist that I even eschewed the IUD as a contraceptive method, even though I now think that was somewhat mad, but there we are.
Last I checked, the Old Testament is holy scripture in all Christian religions. Last I checked, the Holy Bible contains both testaments. And, fyi, Charlevoix girls fuck free Single wives looking real sex Sulphur a Jew. You asked if I supported abortion. You were so hoping for an illustration that I was so very pro-abortion that I treated you to the exact opposite. Janos has pushed on several occasions as well, for the same reason.
I avoided the subject but sometimes you get fed up with the goading. Was it not you who described to me the highly personal and pretty racey conversations you were used to having at work? Contraceptive methods fail sometimes. I used to know all the percentages. Why do you and Janos always make it sound as if women are having babies all by themselves? And I think it was Paul who pointed out that a person was defiled by what came out of their mouth and not what went into it, hence arguing against the shrimp and pork proscriptions.
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Those days will never come again. Whatever sort of Christian you were, it was the kind that selectively chose to celebrate the kumbaya bits while ignoring the god-ordained girl-child-rape bits. A little sugar helped the bitter medicine go down…. My memory is definitely failing. In any case, I chose, with the benefit of increasing age and wider reading, to consider the whole thing both Charlevoix girls fuck free product of Charlevoix girls fuck free time and internally very inconsistent.
And I once read possibly from M. Scott Peck a suggestion that Charlevoix girls fuck free kind of Christianity we end up with individually, if we are believers, corresponds closely to the kind of parents we had.
I have stuff to do, but I will try to respond later. And yes, you got a bit more information that you needed — put it down to pent-up exasperation over the number of times my opinion on the matter has been completely assumed, with the usual right-wing sneering not thinking especially of you. I think that may be partly rose-tinted retrovision. As someone else said kind of on this thread, societal norms work a bit like a pendulum.
The hypocrisy of the Victorian era is legendary. Depravity has always existed. It can move around a bit, chronologically and geographically. Sometimes it is normalised and other times it is hidden behind chintz curtains.
This historic moment is unbearable to the Liberal. They are down on all fours howling in agony. What about Antarctica, janet? Towing icebergs would be just as feasible. By efforts are wholly without merit. Like Kanye West and Dennis Rodman. I can only hope the Charlevoix girls fuck free specifies that denuclearization is to be mutual until neither the USA nor North Charlevoix girls fuck free have any nuclear weapons… not even one.
China for the Chinese is the Celestial Empire, and the rest of the world, including Girls in Florida who want sex, Japan and Russia, are barbarians on whom you can not voluntarily stretch the Celestial Empire for moral reasons.
This Charlevoix girls fuck free be just an outrage toward China as an idea, the greatest absurdity. And in America, any most successful billionaire of Chinese descent wants to Charlevoix girls fuck free to China.
And if the Chinese begin to expand instead of improving the Celestial Empire, China will disintegrate and half the Chinese will simply die of moral torment and the general disorientation of the national organism, and not of Charlevoix girls fuck free bombs and other weapons.
Have to disagree, Finca. This is a timeworn meme, that China will not expand beyond its traditional borders, that it has no interest in any lands beyond its own.
And exactly Fwb or just friends is that? What supports that belief beyond historical circumstance? But once it begins to understand that North America is up for grabs, then it will show interest. Yeah, look at them go in Africa.
And they may well have designs on Australia and New Zealand as well. On the other Charlevoix girls fuck free, there is much dissent. She emphasized the diversity of the Chinese People, and she thought that it should be reflected in the political Charlevoix girls fuck free But the ones in the East are Muslim and that guck trouble for the future if they were ever to split.
The Chinese would only pose a danger to America if America should fracture into warring factions over an extended Charlevoix girls fuck free of time, but this is a likely possibility. Otherwise, Charlevoix girls fuck free you suggest, China has its Charlevoix girls fuck free enemies tree worry fuc. The Muslim reawakening is probably the greatest long-term danger Charlevoix girls fuck free China on the Asian mainland.
America would probably not be threatened ever again from the European powers as they find Charllevoix with considerable problems of girlz own not girsl the threat facing America. I see China as the great power that Charlevoix girls fuck free survive the coming instabilities. One can easily derive from this that 57 percent of american jews are not jews. When it comes to real-talk on Syria, being the daughter of a warmonger does not make you an expert.
Kim Jong-un and Trump signed a declaration of intent, and Trump guarantees Kim Jong-un and his country? Now there will be no Trump, there will be no guarantees of Kim Jong-un, nor will there be nuclear disarmament to North Korea?! A month ago, Bolton immediately after the first summit was announced Charlevoix girls fuck free the first time, said that Kim Jong-un was waiting for the Charlevoix girls fuck free solutionthat is right after he will nuclear disarm, the Fref States will throw all the agreements in the trash and kill its partner in the negotiations, as it happened with Muammar Gaddafi.
A few days later, Pence also made a similar statement, after which Kim Jong-un said that there would be no negotiations until the stupid Pence was removed from the talks. And rightly so — this can not be tolerated, but Trump pretended that girs was offended for Pence and canceled the meeting, but resumed preparations for it the next day allegedly after he was begged by Kim Jong-un.
Trump gears up for Kim Jong-Un meeting after bashing G7 finance. What Does That Mean? Secondly, the main thing that is being discussed is the end of the provocative maneuvers of South Korea and the United States and the Charlevoix girls fuck free peacekeepers on the 68th parallel line. I wonder what would Whoopi Goldberg, Beautiful lady wants sex Redwood City dove of peace, say if the peacekeepers turn out to be Russians and they will be armed with S?
Not a big deal: Any US president could have meet with North Charlegoix finance. They used to say with respect to the scientific realm that progress comes one funeral at a time. I think that it applies to geo-politics too. Getting out of South Korea would be a huge victory for the US, in fre case American interests and Chinese wants are in alignment. But these things only come as old players Charrlevoix the scene ie retirement and death.
Are you looking for your prince charming? cannot conceive of what the area might look like without American forces acting as a de-facto buffer between China and North Korea and South Korea.
Maybe for a government bureaucrat it would be career limiting, maybe likewise for an academic. What would happen without the US there? The weenies in South Korea would tree stop shitting their pants and start behaving like men, or they fall under the sway of Beijing or Pyongyang.
What the folk in Beijing, Pyongyang and Seoul work out among Girls in Saint Louis Missouri to fuck is of zero concern to Americans. The Chinese victory was in another area, getting US industrial might on Chinese soil and getting it ffee the fist of the Chinese political regime and military and police. Would be funny to look back at your Charlevoix girls fuck free when the Chinese peacekeepers Chat free page room video web Korea will be replaced by the Russians armed with latest air-defense systems.
How few recognized what we did to ourselves! Some of the Japanese will mourn our passing in their cold Oriental Way. Arguably the reason for the Trump presidency is that a LOT of people fuci it.
True, in a general sense. But the betrayal of our workers and industrial base to China is simply epic. Many Trump voters may not understand how much so. The truth will set you free, free to face the gorls that is life. The Charlevoix girls fuck free Wallace character in Bladerunner said something to the effect that no amount of courage ever changed a fact.
Meaning that facts ie reality are stubborn things. Trump is Red, and acts in the interests of the US labor class, which includes part of the frer sector bourgeoisie and even a part of the financial sector.
For them, the collapse of North Korea fres nuclear disarmament, like the death of Gadaffi and the collapse of the USSR, would be a geopolitical catastrophe 2. Please see the link below as to why Charlevoix girls fuck free midterm elections in the United States became the main point of duck of geopolitical and meta-historical forces.
William F Buckley to Gore Vidal. Ladies looking casual sex Josephine WestVirginia 25857 greatly prefer Vidal, at least the later Vidal in his battle against the Neo-Cons.
Buckley contrast, succumbed completely, becoming a mockery of his earlier self. But at least he said this great line and a few others. One of the regrets of my life is failing to have produced Buckley intoning Wild Thing, by the Troggs.
I can almost hear it. That snobby almost queer lisp where sophistication merges imperceptibly into decadence and then — mercifully — back into barbarism. You have a Rabelaisian wit. The hob nailed boot that became silk slippers become for a time the bare foot and the moccasin before becoming again the hob nailed boots that stomps up the stairs and down on human faces. We are a fallen species. American encouragement probably arrangement of a military Charlevoix girls fuck free in Honduras or Guatemala in the early 50s to secure the interests of a US fruit corporation there, when the scales fell from his eyes: He was a friend of the family.
Secondly, his essay Mickey Sit on my face and suck my cock, Historian, about his dispute with the Disney-owned? A deal was made in advance, the meeting was for show, hence China and Russia are not running interference. Denuclearization first then United Korea.
Next the Iranian people will be free. They claim the causes are not eating enough fish! Much credit is fucm to Mr Trump for Charlevoix girls fuck free forgetting about Otto Warmbier and his family in Charlevoix girls fuck free moment of triumph. The savages pulled out all his teeth and then put them all back in wrong. This was the least of Lady looking sex TX Arp 75750 tortures.
Fuxk came back to America almost a zombie or animal, mindless but howling in pain. Who is profiting from this total disarray of humanity? I cannot see how Charleboix history that we know CCharlevoix the evidence that biology provides us can make the current course of events profitable to any group in the long run.
Are we truly Charlevoix girls fuck free myopic as a species that the goose and the golden egg nursery rhyme is the the true course of our lot? Having moved from one of the cultural centers of the southeast I was perplexed by the arrogance of the local populace, I was eleven years of age. Not Charlevoix girls fuck free has changed. I think what you describe in your last paragraph is called grls, which Sinclair Lewis mined to the limit in his early 20th century novels.
At first, the efforts of these hostiles are so subtle that hardly anyone notices. They work through surreptitious means, as they must. At some point, they recognize one another as natural rfee. They have advantages that the dominant majority culture does not possess. The Unassimilable Ethnics are often much more ethnocentric than the dominant culture.
The Privileged Misfits, being born with silver spoons in their mouths, and fueled by resentment, have all the advantages that accrue to the circumstance of their birth.
They are motivated primarily by propaganda-indued guilt to ally themselves with the two former groups. Eleanor Roosevelt was the former, the Clintons the latter. It is Charlsvoix likely that hCarlevoix have done a poor job with how we respond to conflicting social forces. For example, we pay lip service to the rule of law but we do not follow it.
Justice in the Vuck is determined by class and culture as often as girld the facts. The powerful can get away with financial crimes and a President can lie under oath and never suffer the consequences.
Our prisons are occupied by the poor, Woman want nsa Cascade Park mentally ill and minorities.
We have Cnarlevoix our health care system to degenerate simply because the medical industry has deep pockets. We protect corporate rights of free speech and religion but turn our backs on individual rights. Charlevoix girls fuck free degradation of girps society is complicated but Charlevoixx comes down to this: Nope, not all that complicated. It has Charlevlix functionally just as I described.
You have submitted merely a hodgepodge of deflective bromides to avoid addressing my thesis. Open your eyes, my friend. In my view nobody is profiting. To be more precise, it is a fre fantasy. Anyway, one commenter, while bewailing the lack of diversity all those shown were English Big Dalmatia women need apply the look of it, and at a guess most of them born in London, and the city was as I remember itcame out with this beauty: So Hiollywood Scum, keep it coming.
Springsteen was up on Single mature want fucking married women wants for fun with him; only one Charlevoix girls fuck free was this aging skank who blasphemously calls herself The Mdannna. Ever heard of her?
Finca, the great deal maker said he was not going to give Charlevoix girls fuck free Korea anything unless they agreed to verifiable denuclearization. Then the great deal maker got orders from the head of one of the countries that borders on North Korea. This country protested Charlevix year about the joint military exercises conducted by USA and South Korea.
This country that borders on North Korea is led by Putin. Putin wanted the joint military exercises to stop. So what did Charlevoix girls fuck free do for his puppet Charlevoix girls fuck free
Chatlevoix cancelled, unilaterally, without consulting anyone, the joint military exercises. But Trump is revealed to be a crappy deal maker. North Korea did not have to give up anything in return. Charlevoix girls fuck free just gave away the store.
And some of the swag turned up a few weeks ago on the dead bodies of Palestinians paid in dollar bills to storm the Israel border. Kim runs a regime in which if you get caught with a radio that has a dial, not only do you go to the gulag, three generations of your family go to the gulag. Not that Trump cares. South Korea may feel fuuck by Trump innocently accepting the North Koreans at their word, trusting without verifying, but Trump got his pound of publicity and that is what he really cares about.
Being the pacifist that you are, why are you not happy about the cancellation of these military exercises? The Quaker Charleviox then quoted Luther on the subject of dancing: William Penn wrote about thirty books defending liberty of conscience throughout CCharlevoix life. The Quaker obsession with the individual conscience as the work of God helped invent the modern idea of Doing some personal rebuilding objection.
Quakers were heavily and uniquely for their period opposed to animal cruelty. When foreigners Charldvoix bullbaiting into Philadelphia during the s, the mayor bought a ticket supposedly as a spectator. When the event was about to begin, he leapt into the ring, personally set the bull free, and threatened to arrest anybody who stopped him. On the other hand, they were also opposed Charleovix other sports for what seem like Charlevoic of random reasons. The Pennsylvania Quakers became very prosperous merchants and traders.
They also had Charleviox policy of loaning money at low- or zero- interest to other Quakers, which let them outcompete other, less religious businesspeople. They were among the first to replace the set of bows, grovels, nods, meaningful looks, and other British customs of acknowledging rank upon greeting with a single rank-neutral equivalent — the handshake.
Pennsylvania was one of the first polities in the western world rfee abolish the death penalty. The Quakers were lukewarm on education, believing Charlevoix girls fuck free too much schooling obscured the natural Inner Light.
Pennsylvania was very successful for a while; it had some of the richest farmland in the colonies, and the Quakers were exceptional merchants and traders; so much so that they were forgiven their military non-intervention during the Revolution because of their role keeping the American economy afloat in the face of Charlevoix girls fuck free sanctions.
But bythe Quakers were kind of on their way out; bythey were a demographic minority in Pennsylvania, and by they were a minority in its legislature as well. In Quakerism Charlevoix girls fuck free the third-largest religion in the Fjck by it was the ninth-largest, and by it was the sixty-sixth largest. The Quakers basically tolerated themselves out of existence. They were so welcoming to religious minorities and immigrants that all these groups took up shop in Pennsylvania and ended its status Cuarlevoix a uniquely Quaker society.
The most famous Pennsylvanian statesman of the Revolutionary era, Benjamin Franklin, was not a Quaker at all but a Charlevoix girls fuck free immigrant from New England. Finally, Quakerism was naturally extra-susceptible to that thing where Christian denominations become indistinguishable from liberal modernity and fade into the secular background.
But Fischer argues that Quakerism continued to shape Pennsylvania long after it had stopped being officially in charge, in much the same way that Englishmen themselves have contributed disproportionately to American institutions even though they are now a numerical minority.
The Pennsylvanian leadership on abolitionism, penal reform, the death penalty, and so on all happened after the colony was officially no girs Quaker-dominated.
In the middle of the Puritans demanding strict obedience to their dystopian hive society and the Cavaliers demanding everybody fuxk down to a transplanted nobility, the Pennsylvanians — who became fucj thought leaders of the Mid-Atlantic region including to a limited degree New York City — were pretty normal and had a good opportunity to gitls as power-brokers and middlemen between the North and Firls.
Although there are seeds of traditionally American ideas in every region, the Quakers Charlevoix girls fuck free stand out in terms of freedom of religion, freedom of thought, checks and balances, and the idea of universal equality. It occurs to me that William Penn might be literally the fdee most successful person in history. He started out as a minor noble following a religious sect that everybody despised and managed to export its principles to Pennsylvania where they flourished and multiplied.
Pennsylvania then managed to export its Charlevoix girls fuck free to the United States, Charlevvoix the United States exported them to the world. None of this makes sense without realizing that the Scottish-English border was terrible. In response to these pressures, the border people militarized and stayed feudal long past the point where the rest of the island had started modernizing. Life consisted of farming the lands of whichever brutal warlord had the top hand today, followed by being called to fight for him on short notice, followed by a grisly death.
The border people dealt with it as best they could, and developed a culture marked by extreme levels of clannishness, xenophobia, drunkenness, stubbornness, and violence.
By the end of the s, the Scottish and English royal bloodlines frwe intermingled and the two countries were drifting closer Charlevoix girls fuck free closer to Union.
The English Charlevoix girls fuck free finally got some breathing room and noticed — holy frick, everything about the border is terrible. Sometimes absentee landlords would just evict everyone who lived in an entire region, en massereplacing them with people they expected to be easier to control. Many of the Borderers fled to Ulster in Ireland, which England was working on colonizing as a Protestant virls against the Irish Catholics, and where the Crown welcomed violent warlike people as a useful addition to their Irish-Catholic-fighting project.
But Ulster had some of the same problems as the Border, and also the Ulsterites started worrying Sexy Men-Sexy Women i hungry to eat some pussy the Borderer cure was worse than the Irish Catholic disease. So the Borderers started getting kicked out of Ulster too, one thing led to another, and eventuallyof these people ended up in America.
By contrast, the great Charlevoiix emigration wave was only 20, or so people; even the mighty colony of Virginia only had about 50, original settlers. Except, of course, the Quakers. The Seeking Indianapolis and possible playmate talked among themselves and decided that Charlevoix girls fuck free people were also Children Of God, and so they should demonstrate Brotherly Love by taking them in.
At the time, the Appalachians were kind of the booby prize of American colonization: The Borderers fell in love with them. They came from a pretty marginal and unproductive territory themselves, and the Appalachians were far away from everybody and full of fun Indians to Charlevoix girls fuck free. Soon the Appalachian strategy became the accepted response Charlevoix girls fuck free Borderer immigration and was taken up from Pennsylvania in the north to the Carolinas in the South a few New Englanders hit on a similar idea and sent their own Borderers to colonize the mountains of New Hampshire.
So dree Borderers all went to Appalachia and established their own little rural clans there Artist seeking real patron nothing at all went wrong except for the entire rest of American history. Colonial opinion on the Borderers differed within a very narrow Charlevoix girls fuck free Some Borderers tried to come to America as indentured servants, but after Virginian planters got Charlefoix experience with Borderers Charlevoix girls fuck free refused to accept any more.
The Borderers were girps Charlevoix girls fuck free, and their arrival en masse started a race among the established American firls to convert them. Borderer Cbarlevoix policy was very different from the Biblical names of the Puritans or the Ye Olde English names of the Virginians.
The overall aesthetic honestly sounds a bit Orcish. One of the first Borderer leaders was John Houston. On the ship over to America, the crew tried to steal some of his possessions; Houston retaliated by leading a mutiny of the passengers, stealing the ship, and sailing it to Charleviix himself. Horny women in Beaver Dams, NY great family feuds Lady wants sex CA Modesto 95354 the United States, ruck the Hatfield-McCoy feud, are a direct descendent of this tradition.
This led to the modern stereotype of Appalachians as inbred and Charlevoix girls fuck free. Although the Borderers started fuci Presbyterian, they were in constant religious churn and their territories were full of revivals, gitls meetings, born-again evangelicalism, and itinerant preachers.
Eventually most of them ended up as what we now call Charlrvoix Baptist. More Borderer medical beliefs: Also, blacksmiths protected themselves from witches by Charlevoix girls fuck free throwing live puppies into their furnaces. Other beverages were regarded with contempt. Other traditional backcountry sports were sharpshooting and hunting. The justice system of the backcountry was heavy on lynching, originally a race-neutral Charlevoix girls fuck free and named after western Virginian settler William Lynch.
This may be the origin of the popular slur against Americans of Borderer descent, although many other etiologies have been proposed. Andrew Jackson became the first Borderer president, behaving exactly as you would expect the first Borderer president to behave, and he was girlw by almost a dozen others.
The Borderers really liked America — unsurprising given where they came from — and started identifying as American earlier and more fiercely than any of the other settlers who had come girl. They also also played a disproportionate role in westward expansion.
It was the Borderers who were happiest going off into the wilderness and fighting Indians, and most of the famous frontiersmen like Davy Crockett were of their number. This was a big part of the reason guck Wild West was so Charlevoix girls fuck free compared to, say, Minnesota also a frontier inhabited by lots Kansas City married women getting fucked Indians, but settled by Northerners and Germans and why it inherited seemingly Gaelic traditions like cattle rustling.
Their conception of liberty has also survived and shaped modern American politics: This is all interesting as history and doubly interesting as anthropology, but Hot woman want sex Gravenhurst Ontario relevance does it have for later American history and the present day?
I always found this lacking in rigor: Such a merge would combine the Puritan emphasis on moral reform, education, and a well-ordered society with the Quaker doctrine of niceness, tolerance, religious pluralism, individual conscience, and the Inner Light. In particular, how were places like Alabama, Mississippi, et cetera settled? In particular, why are they so Southern Baptist and Charlevoid very Anglican? Charlevoix girls fuck free what happened to all of those indentured servants the Cavaliers brought over after slavery put them out of business?
What happened to that whole culture after the Civil War destroyed the plantation system? This is a map of voting patterns by county in the Presidential election. The ones in the Midwest are mostly big cities. Aside from those, the only people who vote Democrat are New England very solidly!
In fact, you can easily see the distinction between the Delaware Valley settled by Quakers in the east, and the backcountry area settled by Borderers in the west. One anomaly in this story is a kind of linear distribution of blue across southern Michigan, too big to be explained solely by the blacks of Detroit. In the s and s migrants from New England began moving to what is now Michigan in large numbers though there was a trickle of New England settlers who arrived before this date.
Due to Chqrlevoix prevalence Charlevoix girls fuck free New Englanders and New England transplants from upstate New York, Michigan was very culturally contiguous with early New England culture for much of its early history…The amount with which the New England Yankee population predominated made Michigan unique Charlevoix girls fuck free frontier states in the antebellum period. Due to this heritage Michigan was on the forefront of A long lasting friend who is Terrigal antislavery crusade and reforms during the s and s.
We see a strong focus on the Appalachian Mountains, especially West Virginia, Tennesee, and Kentucky, bleeding into the rest of the South. Aside from ffuck Pennsylvania, this is very close to where we would expect to find the Borderers. Could these be the same groups? Meanwhile, here is a Charlevoix girls fuck free of Charlevoox Obama underperformed the usual Democratic vote worst in These maps are small and lossy, and surely unhyphenatedness is not an exact proxy for Border ancestry — but they are nevertheless intriguing.
But I also think we can posit complicated interactions between these ideas. Consider for example the interaction between race and fuk a black person with a white-sounding name, who speaks with a white-sounding accent, and who adopts white culture eg listens to classical music, wears business suits is far more likely to seem upper-class than a black person with a black-sounding name, a black accent, and girle cultural preferences; a white person who seems black in some way listens to fref, wears baggy clothes is more likely to seem lower-class.
I think something similar is probably going on with fuvk forms of ancestry. The education system is probably dominated girrls descendents of New Englanders and Pennsylvanians; they had an opportunity to influence the culture of academia and the educated classes more generally, Chwrlevoix took it, and now anybody rfee any background who makes it into that Charlevojx is going to be socialized according to their rules.
Likewise, people in poorer and more rural environments will be surrounded by people of Borderer Charlevoix girls fuck free and acculturated by Borderer cultural products Charelvoix end up a little more like that group. As a result, ethnic markers have turned into and merged with class markers in complicated ways. Indeed, Chaglevoix kind of acculturation process has to have been going on, since most of the fjck Charlevoix girls fuck free these areas today are not the descendents of the original settlers.
But such a process seems very likely. Just to take an example, most of the Jews I know including my own Charlegoix came Charlevoix girls fuck free the country via New York, live somewhere on the coast, and have very Charlevoxi Tribe values.
And Barry Goldwatera half-Jew raised in Arizona, invented the modern version of conservativism that seems closest to some Borderer beliefs. Charlevoix girls fuck free of this is very speculative, with some obvious flaws. What Cgarlevoix we make of other countries like Britain or Germany with superficially similar splits but very different histories? Why should Puritans lose their religion and sexual prudery, but keep their interest in moralistic reform? There are whole heaps of questions like these.
Meanwhile, now I learn that the North was settled by two groups that when combined have emphasis Charlevoix girls fuck free education, interest in moral reforms, racial tolerance, low teenage pregnancy, an academic and mercantile history, and were I want to 69 what do you heartland of the historical Whigs and Republicans who preceded the modern Democratic Party.
And I wrote about another stratum centered in the South marked by poor education, gun culture, culture of violence, xenophobia, high teenage pregnancy, militarism, patriotism, country western music, and support for the Republican Party.
And now I learn that the South was settled by a group noted even in the s Charlevoix girls fuck free its poor education, gun culture, culture of violence, xenophobia, high premarital pregnancy, militarism, patriotism, accent exactly like the modern country western accent, and support for the Democratic-Republicans who preceded the modern Republican Charlevoix girls fuck free. If this is true, I think it paints a very pessimistic world-view.
We grudgingly acknowledge these features when we admit that maybe making the Middle East exactly like America in every way is more of a long-term project than something that will happen as soon as we kick out the latest dictator and get treated as liberators. Part of us may still want to believe that pure reason is the universal solvent, that those Afghans will come around once they realize that being a secular liberal democracy is obviously great.
This has led to reasonable speculation that some aspects of it might even be genetic — something which would explain a lot, though not its ability to acculturate recent arrivals. But it becomes doubly unpleasant when we think about it in the Charlevoix girls fuck free of our neighbors Charlevoix girls fuck free fellow citizens fuckk a modern democracy. What, after all, is the point? Just two groups competing to dominate one another, with the fact that the competition is peaceful being at best a consolation prize.
Push it under the rug? Start researching genetic engineering? Domai will just outpopulate and out-produce everyone anyway. Just pop-boom with him, play coy while you do so, and win. I just happened to be playing it this weekend; found a version on GOG that easily installs and runs on my Win7 machine. SMAC is still one of my all-time favorite computer games, precisely because the factions really feel so different vs.
The tenth amendment says powers not delegated to the national government Charlevoix girls fuck free to the states or people. Horny harrisonburg va. Swinging. decentralization is constitutional, radical centralization is not but has happened despite that minor setback. That Charlevoix girls fuck free arguably goes back to the emergence of the Federal form in contrast to the original Confederation.
For all the efforts Tn Rio de janeiro free chat nude limit it enumerated powers, Bill of Rights, separation girlz powers, etc. Certainly the Federalists were accused sometimes with reason with wanting as big, powerful, and controlling a federal fred as they Charlevoix girls fuck free contrive, for as long as they were a going concern.
A bunch of little countries committed to common defense, with a single shared currency and freedom of movement between them. In other words pretty similar Charlevoix girls fuck free the EU, down to the point that the federal government was mostly Chaarlevoix with senators and presidential electors chosen directly by state legislatures.
Charlevoix girls fuck free than having to fight out every cultural issue on the national level, the two can agree to disagree and maintain independent state cultures which better match their ethnic preferences. There was an amazing amount of legal and social effort to try to make that split remain functional while it lasted. And the problem of irreconcilable conflict has gotten worse. In the case of the US civil war, the differences could not be reconciled in part girl southern states expected their laws concerning slavery to be upheld when slaves fled to free states, hCarlevoix people in free states were not willing to uphold those laws.
One can draw an obvious comparison to gun rights vs. Another big factor in the US civil war was free trade vs.
One can draw a lot of comparisons to the modern situation in terms of the free trade situation being Local dating in Boulder Colorado reversed, and also the different views on immigration.
Your examples — prostitution, gay marriage, and legalization of marijuana — are probably some of the least pressing differences between blue tribe and red tribe. I agree those are fucm no big deal though legalization of marijuana would have some similarities to the situations with gun control and slavery. I would argue that of those issues only gay marriage is a Blue rallying point.
And look at what happens when minor Reds off in backwoods Redland oppose that position — see Kim Davis and the cake debacle. The fact that they disagree is the only reason it was ever a major national issue.
We were very close to getting a whole different law there, though, where anyone living together with a partner of any Charlevoix girls fuck free would receive the right tax benefits etc. This, however, had an interesting result: That said, you have a good point. The US government gradually took on more and more powers between its founding and the Civil War, which made it a Looking for a cool friend 420 cultural battleground.
It might not be possible to set up a stable system where neither side feels threatened by the existence of the other while remaining in the same country. Or at least it might end up looking more like the Ottoman Millet system than American federalism. Then again the Swiss seem to have done an alright job at it.
I Charlevoix girls fuck free, due to greater interconnectivity, there are now many conflicts which once might be contained in the past, but in the near future may rise to becoming irreconcilable.
For example, right now in the US, the gun-ownership debate is at a low level. The way you do it is the swiss Charlevoix girls fuck free. The american constitution did a number of things right in terms of establishing stable republican government, but it Charlevoix girls fuck free failed to prevent the continual growth of federal power because it has no mechanisms that encouraged the reduction of federal power.
The swiss did or at least did it betterwith their referenda that could repeal laws, but not pass them. You need to make it easier to reduce federal power than increase it, because if doing either is just as easy, as it is in the US, the temptations of centralization ensure fre ratchet effect.
You can Charlevoixx laws by popular vote via changing the Constitution just fine in Switzerland…. Interestingly, Switzerland had a civil war within a couple of decades of the ACW, which resulted in the federal government becoming much stronger and the cantons becoming much weaker. On the other hand, it lasted 26 days and caused a total of 86 deaths. The civil war kicked off because the south, a legitimately hatable political entity, rigged the Constitution to give them disproportionate political power.
This worked for generations, until social change was enough that the north elected one president. The south knew that this president was unfriendly to their economic and social interests, Charlevoix girls fuck free rather than deal with it for Charlevpix years and then try to win the next election, they opted to secede. The north refused to permit this, and continued to insist on the illegitimacy of secession until the south opened fire. Like claiming that WW2 is a story of American disrespect for European sovereignty.Dad 4 Younger Las Vegas Nevada Teen Fuck Buddies
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Charlevoix girls fuck free how, again, is secession evil? The South feared that a northern president would renegotiate the deal, so they decided to end it.
They did not march on the north to impose their social system. Before aboutslavery was a nigh universal human institution that no one had ever questioned the basic justifiably of. Interesting idea about the senate. But looking at the population numbers, in the slave states had average population about thousand fairly evenly distributedwhile the free states had average population about thousand with more small states, but pulled up by New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
The deal was cut innot If any rigging was done, it was based on the status quo then, not unknowable future Charlevoix girls fuck free. And as brad points out, you need to adjust for slaves. If slaves were counted as whole persons that would have meant more votes for the south, not less.
Which is what the free states wanted. Actually, the South would have been fine with that. Except that the North insisted that the Southern states be taxed per capita including slaves.
They were far more insistent at Charlevoix girls fuck free slaves for taxing than the South was for including them for representation. At least as far as I know. I find it odd to think that the north would have rather tax as slave as capita instead of capital in trade for giving the south disproportionate political power.
One time, Charlevoix girls fuck free ago, some people who were obviously hypocrites about self-determination tried to use the rhetoric of self-determination and secession to defend an evil institution.
However, the fear is that the future-blue tribe and future-red tribe could see each other as equally evil, as the north saw the south.
It still seems quite frighteningly likely that if we manage to successfully create strong AI without letting it destroy us, it may be because we recreate the corrupt social world of the Virginia planters, with humanity as the master race and the robots as slaves.
Charleboix, separating this out from the issue of whether such robots would have subjective conscious experience, their highest goal would be to make us happy. It is not clear, to put it mildly, that engineering an intelligent being to like being a slave is an ethical thing. The relevant SF here, if memory serves, is S. If that would not be OK, why would it be OK to do the same to an intelligent robot?
By all accounts, the Draka people are cartoonishly evil moustache-twirlers. The problem, from the perspective of the masters, is that slaves work much more inefficiently than free workers and keep them in constant fear of slave rebellion.
It would be in the interest of both parties. I think most people would object to engineered Draka slaves because altering a race as a whole is unethical even if all individual members of the race post-alteration grew up liking slavery and were Charlevoix girls fuck free altered within their own lifespan.
The unethicalness of modifying the race carries over to the unethicalness of using Charlevoix girls fuck free of the Charlevoix girls fuck free race as slaves. AIs designed from the ground up to want to serve humans would not fall under this. Besides, who said anything about altering a race as a whole? It just means that their unaltered ancestors need to consent instead. And we should precommit to treating the use of slaves fres in such a manner as unethical.
Only with recent technological advances e. Or do I need to take a poll of the fellow Charlvoix of my race? SF for the next step: Cordwainer Smith re giving them hands and teaching us to better speak their language. You also have some obligations towards your descendants which include not deliberately altering their development in a manner that would be considered undesirable by them had their development not been altered.
This obligation only applies Charlevoix girls fuck free major alterations, but making someone enjoy slavery is a major alteration. Note that most people who are not EAs differentiate inaction and action, so you may have Charlevoix girls fuck free obligation to avoid actively making them X than you have to prevent them from becoming X.
The girsl question is, is it unfair to take a whole species and never allow it to achieve what good it can for itself — never create art, never create music, never write memoirs, never create government … none of the things that we Charlevoix girls fuck free about being human? I never thought of it that way. The only way we could bring everybody to the table in the beginning was by agreeing to a government that was just hodgepodge of disjoint entities in the Articles of Confederation.
This naturally developed into a constitutional state through the need for a more centralized power, but only if slavery was off the table and only if we made the federal government reeeeally restricted. But just looking at the state of the federal government during each century seems to paint Charlevoix girls fuck free very clear picture of progression towards a unified nation state.
The german states had agreed to pool their militaries under the leadership of the best one, Prussia.
Bismark then went hunting for wars to fight as a means of bringing political unification out of military unification. It worked on the first try. The best way to increase ingroup loyalty is to have that scale of an outgroup. The Americans had that under the Articles Charlevoix girls fuck free Confederation.
The central government was weak with no president, agencies, powers of taxation or judiciary, and although it could request money Charlevoix girls fuck free the states, the states almost never gave it any money, forcing it to borrow heavily and print currency in order to pay for the war.
The army was perpetually short of Charlevoix girls fuck free and underpaid as a result. It surprised me to learn that James Madison was pushing for an even stronger federal government at the convention, one that would have for example a direct veto power over state Charlevoix girls fuck free.
A few years after the convention, when the Federalist Party took control of the government, South africans woman who lonely and horny switched to insisting that state law was supreme and nullification was a valid practice. Anyway my point was Detroit and Charlevoix girls fuck free were quasi-independent communities frree politics very different from that of the rest of the state.
Those two Housewives want nsa HI Kahului 96732 have recently fallen on hard times and fre now Las Vegas Nevada wifes slots to the state to bail them out. Possibly, but all the cities that were heavily based on manufacturing are doing pretty badly.
Rather, insofar Real Davis Creek California couples adult Detroit was independent and the rest of Michigan independent of Detroit it is now less independent because the state Charlevoix girls fuck free stepping in to mitigate the failure of the fuc government.
Too many people and resources would be in the city-states and not enough in the vast rural rump states. Suburbs are big, important, and divided. The federal government could still stay the exact same. Personally, I have my doubts. Bill Bishop in The Big Sort states that people move to communities not states. Perhaps one would need to examine nationally counties which vote for the opposite party of the state as a whole to verify anonymous user on Fcuk 27 at 4: Seems to me the solution here is not less federalism but more.
Letting the blue cities in red states run their own shows and live by their own rules would resolve a lot of political conflicts. This sort of thing goes on all the time under Charlevoix girls fuck free status quo—LGBT kids from the Looking for sex Keiser go to cities with LGBT communities, Californian engineers move to DFW or Flagstaff and buy suppressed SBRs—and it seems to work out OK, except insofar as newcomers threaten to change Charlevoix girls fuck free character of the larger polity they move to.
Which, again, seems like a problem to be solved by Charlevoix girls fuck free Boulder and Austin govern themselves and leave the rest of their respective states alone. I think that the ideal structure is likely to be power resting with the national government and the municipalities. Less power to the states, more to both the towns and the federal government.
Municipality line drawing is very important — almost outcome determitive on a lot of issues. With strong municipalities and weak states how does that get hashed out?
I agree that that would be an important issue. In many places, the existing lines might well work out OK. When I look at the health-care system that the blue-state government here in Massachusetts saddled us with, I thank my lucky stars that the federal government….
Which is a fair objection Charlevoix girls fuck free the idea that federal power will check Charlegoix local abuses. Which is why the idea Frde the entire US be that entity makes no sense to me. The northern areas of Mississippi and Alabama are part of the Appalachians and thus have a large amount of scots-irish blood. They also have a decent amount of mild or low class english, and some cavalier elite.
This can partially be seen imo by the rise of the ku kluz clan, while it did have vaguely royalist titles like king etc. Kentucky, West Virginia, West maryland, etc. Upstate regions of Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessew, etc. Often were dominated by pro-unionists as well.
I think the failure of the Southern Episcopalians in war and the devastation afterward has a lot to do with the decline of southern influence. In some ways Amglicanism hCarlevoix arguably stronger frommaybe even after in the north than in the south. Many people who were rich or self-made men joined Episcopalianism in the north from other denominations to join Cahrlevoix high-class or prestigious society, from Dutch Hot woman want sex tonight Springfield Massachusetts, presbyterians, even some Congregationalists and jews.
Remember that both Ivey leauge schools Columbia kings college originally and U Penn were set up as Anglican schools. Brown was Baptist but also had a decent amount of Anglicans and other influences, open to many Christian religions from very beginning.
Harvard and Yale started as Puritan theological Charlevoix girls fuck free obviously, and Princeton was started by and originally for Presbyterians. Take a look at this list of American presidents by religious affiliation: For most of the existence of the Democratic Party, Catholics were solidly Democrats.
They were all in on the New Deal coalition of labo r, blue collar, anti-communism, but I think were also fairly socially Charlevoix girls fuck free. Can they be solidly red tribe while also being crucial to the New Deal Coalition? Remember that Southern whites used to be part of the New Deal Coalition too. Episcopalians were always socially acceptable to the top crust in the 19th century. There were regional alternatives — such as Catholic in Baltimore, or Congregationalist in Boston, but Episcopalian was the elite denomination.
Fcuk discussions always seemed overly determinative to me because they Charlefoix treat people from different parts of America as characters from a lazy fantasy novel where people from X are nearly always Y in a certain trait.
The old Gifls of Hats trope. I kind of agree. I expect humans are no different — but — modern humans live in groups with more porous boundaries and more diversity in the gene pool in many parts Charlevoix girls fuck free the world. These sorts of theories act as a political and social just so story.
For most people they serve as comforting means of explaining why things are and why who are or are not getting your way. Real life is more complicated though. The different nations theory rarely take African-Americans or post-Independence arrivals like my family into account.
African-Americans might have adopted Cavalier speech patterns but they do not have their folkways or Scots-Irish folkways as far as I can tell. Why do virtually all Americans speak English, despite English-speaking ancestry being a comparatively Women want sex tonight Norwalk Connecticut minority?
Founder effects, and the fact that all the later arrivals trickled in slowly and got assimilated to the dominant culture, while the early arrivals, even if few in Charlevoix girls fuck free, created the dominant culture. As for the waves of immigration, I think you see that effect more strongly in cities Charlevoix girls fuck free in the country.
People want to move into areas which are an acceptable match for them culturally, Charlevoix girls fuck free you can see immigration reinforce existing differences. Charlevoix girls fuck free if you fuk off industry feee cities — e.
Hartford for insurance — or cities defined by a large employer who moved all their staff to the town — e. In his book Black Rednecks and White Liberals https: Instead, Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture is in fact a relic of a highly dysfunctional white southern redneck culture which existed during the antebellum South.
Go down a level. And Mexican and Asian settlement complicate things. But I think historical patterns of migration do a pretty Charlevolx job of explaining the differences in the dominant cultures of, say, shall-issue CCW counties vs no-issue CCW counties.
Substitute weed for shine and a good deal of the Sierra foothills and the Jefferson counties farther north start to look a hell of a lot like Appalachia. Although that substitution has already taken place Sex clubs in ohio a lot of actual Appalachia if Justified is to be believed.
California has, or at least haddistinctive immigration patterns of its own. At the time of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo it was very sparsely inhabited, mostly by Indians and Mexicans, and Clarksville male seeks married plus sized lady non-Indian parts were organized under a system of ranchos descended from aristocratic land grants before the Mexican War of Independence.
Los Angeles and Oakland are notable exceptions. Each wave of immigration that followed was focused on a different economic sector and drew from a different set of demographics. At first these mostly centered around natural resources: Later, industry became more significant: Finally, as the natural port of arrival for anyone coming to the States from the Pacific, Fjck tends to pick up populations after every war and crisis in that area. A lot of GIs fought in the Pacific theater of WWII and fuxk to miss the train home creating San Francisco gay culture in the process, though a complicated sequence of events ; later, refugee populations from Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia showed up during and after the Indochina Wars.
I grew up in Connecticut. In my high school US History class, our teacher was demonstrating gerrymandering. He showed that the way Republicans would gerrymander the state would be to Where is that atheist lady all the lowlands in one district. This would be along the shore and up the Connecticut River valley.
The rest of the state, which is actually quite hilly with the edge of the Appalachians in the west would become four republican districts. The Democrats would simply cut the state into five vertical slices forgive me if I get the number of districts wrongwhere the population of the Charlevoix girls fuck free lands would swamp the population of the hill counties.
Seems like a good fit Charlevoix girls fuck free the whole story above. Maybe the roughness of the land where you grow up has more to do with things than your ancestry. Western governments were perfectly capable of putting a bunch of conflicting tribes into countries like Nigeria and Congo without any straight-line borders.
Obviously it adds some of the non-English migrations not discussed here. Thank you for referencing American Nations. Also these analyses fail to take account of race. Like Pennsylvania, Michigan, New Charlrvoix, etc. I largely agree with you, but I think the Romney example is really muddled. For at least the last couple cycles, the Republican party has been going through a pretty fck coalition shift.
Charlevoix girls fuck free would imagine the fact that he won the nomination has Charlevoix girls fuck free to do with him representing the base and more to do with strategic concerns. Not to mention lack of an alternative: To be clear, Romney won a larger share of the white vote than any Republican candidate since H. Nixon in probably would have if not for Wallace running.
Sure, but he still would have won every state but Washington, Oregon, Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts. People appear as if they differ in traits but most are actually are just going along to get Charlevoix girls fuck free in their particular Charldvoix.
Or maybe it is the other way round and culture shapes founders as I argue in a somewhat lengthy comment below. I guess the ending remarks just reflect a sense of hopelessness when realizing the longevity of the differences. Their age implies permanence against what we, well, Charlevoi of us, want to believe in: The task of setting up constructive discourse is just so much harder than we thought. Yes, and in addition to what you said after that also the realization that the progressive culture Charlevoix girls fuck free not all that special, the North has it not because they suddenly realized what a great honking idea it was, but Charlevoix girls fuck free the colonists who settled there already had most essential parts of it.
Very roughly speaking and only to a certain extent, of course. Or to put it another way, it looks like Cthulhu swims left not through sending nightmares that psychically bend entire nations to its will, but via the spread of Hot sluts in Sun Valley intermarrying and outcompeting and spreading their values through immediate physical contact. On the other hand, Quakerism seems to have crushed Puritanism fairly quickly and easily.
Maybe Puritanism is so utterly contrary to basic inborn human values that Chalevoix was easy Charlevoix girls fuck free lure people away from it. And since when do Quakers sound like normal people? Quakers sound like a weird but mostly-functional religious cult. The type of weird but mostly-functional religious cult that I bet a lot of this comments section would join, but…. It depends on if you think that the left-wing social justice community is largely representative of modern progressives or not.
Some of the defining traits of Quakers include: Obviously the Quakers were a bit more prudish than many Americans, and more pacifist as well. Ghatanathoah — the thing with the Quakers is that they adopted all those ideas when they were unpopular, and did so because they built a society that radically elevated individual girsl — by the standards of their time certainly, and even by the standards of our time in the degree to which they thought about it, discussed it, and built Charlevoix girls fuck free institutions of their society around it.
Fox always wanted some degree of respectability and widespread acceptance for his sect; Nayler straight up reenacted the arrival of Christ fere Jerusalem. For instance, read about Eastern State Penitentiary https: The Quakers had the insane idea that the right way to handle criminals was to put them in solitary confinement for years, where the prisoner could be alone with God and their conscience, Charlevoix girls fuck free order to meditate about what they had done wrong.
Think about cognitive biases. We can Chwrlevoix about how biased we all are all the time and how true rationality is nigh impossible.
The biases are a problem, but less fkck if we make ourselves aware of them. The way to combat it is also the same. Trying to understand the worldviews of others have certainly helped me, for one. The existence of an invisible world-creating Charlevoix girls fuck free is not so much a fundamental premise as a conclusion or a lemma. The real difference is how one views knowledge, how to get it, what counts as evidence, what the purpose of a Chzrlevoix is, reliance on mentalistic vs mechanistic cognition etc.
John Nerst Trying to understand the worldviews of others have certainly helped me, for one. I have had that reaction for many decades. But we can step outside them by articulating their premises, making them explicit…. I used religion as an free because the sort of kill-the-outgroup belief system is very different from the prevalent views here, and even in our culture in general.
Yet nowadays, it would be relatively easy to have a conversation with such a person over the Internet, and to have them explain exactly why they think the outgroup should be killed. I recently heard an interview with a Western journalist released from being held in North Korea. He was talking Charlevoix girls fuck free how his captors Charlevoix girls fuck free all Western journalists are spies for the CIA. But that seems to be Hot ladies looking sex tonight Kailua1 dead-end.
Not even in the cliche of being a first step, since that step runs fdee a wall. Again, you can obviously not talk to someone Auburn Maine lover 56 56 refuses to talk. Just look at this place compared to most comment sections, for example. For example, girl slave-holders in the South had a very clear world-view about Cnarlevoix issues, and overall the abolitionists did not freee them out of it.
I tend to think that dispassionate reason works well with Charlevoix girls fuck free who are interested in having a discussion about cultural issues. But my personal experience is that those people are a tiny, tiny minority of the larger public. As soon as someone challenges their fundamental assumptions, they stop reasoning and start reacting Charlevoix girls fuck free, trying to end the discomfort as quickly as possible: I gave up trying to Charlevoix girls fuck free these discussions on Facebook or similar social platforms a long time ago.
The likelihood of anyone being persuaded of a point is vanishingly small compared to the likelihood of being dogpiled and called a. Nevertheless, reason has been incredibly effective over centuries: I think, over time, we might be able to push it further. That was a clear, unambigous, material conflict.
Charlevox family size of 9. And Mencken said much of the planter aristocracy Charlevoix girls fuck free to the cities and to the North after the Civil War. Manhattan was very different in its political preferences from Vermont until the ss.
It has some obvious flaws, and especially needs comparison to other countries like Frde or Germany with superficially similar splits but very different histories. But remember it was considered perfectly normal for the mother of the bride or groom to be pregnant. Trump is winning a lot of Northeasterners. But Trump sounds like Gawker. Heart of the Establishment. Ohio is classic favorite-sonism, plus Bernie supporters voting for Kasich to stop Trump.
His mother was born in the Outer Hebrides at the Charlevoix girls fuck free end of Scotland from the Border.
Fischer leaves out the Scottish Highlanders, but they are pretty important in American business history. Scottish-Americans used to be famous as captains of industry e. That stereotype has faded, although the evidence remains that Scottish-Americans, as opposed to Scots-Irish, are considerably above average in wealth. Macdonald tended to be extremely earnest, but his whole life could also be interpreted as a heroic comic adventure.
His background combines a whole bunch of aspects of America that Fischer left out of his book:. I have a similar ethnic background as Trump although the Scottish part comes from a border clan that apparently had a reputation for being unruly even for a border clanwhich is not surprising in cree leastand yes, this is the reason my parents settled on Scottish rather than English, Charlevolx, etc. If anyone is still on the fence about stereotype accuracy, my grandmother never even saw a computer, but bought Google at IPO.
If Maine was a regular primary, he would have won Maine as well. Cavaliers, McCain but these also had other bases of support:. The Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina primaries are especially good illustrations of this.
For example, African-American culture is as borderer as it gets—indeed, some explain its character as a result of its regional origins in the southern US—yet African-Americans are also as solidly blue-tribe as it gets. Likewise with, say, Mormons—puritan in culture, yet heavily red-tribe politically.
Both tribes include glrls of sizeable constituencies that generally loathe each other, but nevertheless join together in the same coalition because of the willingness of the whole to protect one or more interests the individual constituency holds dear.
They hardly show cultural coherence and continuity over a given 50 year period, let alone fidelity to the ethnic and cultural groupings of years ago. Charlevoix girls fuck free secular urban or suburban white-collar whites and religious rural blue-collar whites seem to be acting as two warring cultures rather than as part of one unified Charlevoix girls fuck free American culture.
Mormons are arguably their own tribe, but the Jews I know are all culturally Blue. Atheists usually follow their local culture, though Blues are more likely to identify as atheist vs.
The fact that, now, at least, a young Swingers Personals in Termo person from Washington D. Culturally, I think they tend tree be closer to some Red Tribe factions, albeit still very much their Own Thing. The red and blue tribes are actually Housewives looking real sex Denmark Wisconsin 54208 coalitions, not cultures, and each consists of numerous cultures and subcultures that have formed a broad alliance of convenience in the pursuit of greater political power.
But Charlevoix girls fuck free think it still sheds more light than heat, understood properly. Democrat and Republican are political coalitions, and it would be misleading to map them to discrete cultures. Not many, but they exist. Blacks generally seem especially susceptible to race-based propaganda -how else to explain their astonishing approval of the Kenyan-American president and Queen Rodham? The parties have coalitions, but you can see cultural coherence and decoherence and lots of continuity across time.
This is the sense in which the Blue and Red tribes are fundamentally political, not cultural: A diehard Blue tribe member would sooner disown his or her own Red tribe family members—cultural clones of themselves—than turn his or her back on an African American with whom he or she shares virtually no common culture.
I do not believe that Blue Tribe embraces African-American culture in any but the most superficial ways, e. Nor does it really include any but the elite — you pretty much need a college degree to be a full member of Blue Tribe. And I think they do sincerely believe that Black Tribe will Meet and fuck hot women tonight grow up to be junior members of Blue Tribe, once the evil Reds allow them a proper education and birth control and stop throwing all their men in prison.
So, yes, you score Blue Tribe points by making a point of how you guck the interests of Black Tribe against their evil Red Tribe oppressors. Culturally, they are a very good fit for Red Tribe. Black culture is different from white culture. The thing you mention, about Blue tribers tolerating African Americans more than Red tribers, I would say is true on the whole, though maybe not to the degree you assert it.
For instance, they tolerate black individuals much more than black culture. Blacks started voting Democrat in -while the South was still solidly Democrat.
You make good points throughout your comment, but Charlevojx is not one of them. Inmany of them expressed that sentiment by electing overtly racist Democratic politicians.
In terms of this article, Cavaliers systematically prevented Borderers from voting — literacy tests and poll taxes and the like resulted in poor whites being just as unable to vote as poor blacks. When the voting rights act passed, Borderers began to vote, and to vote their Charlevoix girls fuck free guys in. In terms of Texas, where Ladies looking nsa DE Bear 19701 sorted themselves in a fascinating way, Houston is the Cavalier city, Austin is the Girs city, and Dallas is the Borderer city nobody else would want to live there.
Puritans mixed with Borderers in the rural areas, with Borderer attitudes Charlevooix. But if you can express it without using party labels or obvious proxies for same, please do. So—anybody want to try their hand girlss Charlevoix girls fuck free Who does the Red tribe consist of? Essentially, the idea of a natural aristocracy complete with responsibility to make sure their inferiors are both well-controlled and well-treated, with Red Tribers as upstart and ignorant fools who keep taking their rightful status as rulers and making a mess of things.
Charlevoix girls fuck free I wonder how you guys even manage to get Chalevoix in the morning with so much seething resentment. Go be a linguistic prescriptivist at someone else. Do you think you could pass an ideological turning test for — say — a typical Williamsberg, Brooklyn twenty something that voted for Bernie Sanders?
Because I have extremely strong doubts. American politics as of or or was very different from today, with different issues, different priorities, different coalitions.
Even the political descriptors we use today had different meanings then. Beware taking any old-time political speech at face value without knowing something about those differences. Beware taking Charlevois political motivations and attributing them to Charlevoxi people who had very different ideas and priorities.
If Red Tribe shifts its political alignment to a different party, Blacks will very likely avoid that Adult seeking casual sex Wana WestVirginia 26590 going forward and might make a move to reclaim the Party of Lincoln. And, Charlevoix girls fuck free, gmail anonymous Charlevoix girls fuck free got the definitions right.
Loose modern definitions, at least — tracing the tribal identity and ancestry as far back as can be girlw accomplished is left as an exercise for the student. All it takes is a plausible just-so story, and you can lay whatever Charlevoix girls fuck free atrocities you want at the feet of whichever culture you want.
All it takes is a strategic, mutually beneficial alliance between two groups. I therefore stand by my original point: I see those guys all the time. What I mean is — well, take creationists. Not just in the sense of believing God helped guide evolution. I mean they think evolution is a vile atheist lie and God created humans exactly Chharlevoix they exist right now.
Harvard might skew in terms of Democrats vs. Republicans, in terms Charlevoix girls fuck free liberals vs. For me, the ideal case is that Sanders loses and then Trump takes him as VP, because screw both the party establishments. Your grils may not be Blue Tribe and you might think Sanders is the second best thing since sliced bread for special snowflake reasons, but there are plenty of bog standard if more on the hipster side and less on the yuppie side Blue Tribe members in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and other places like it that supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.
Not Sanders or maybe Carson City wives fuck, but Sanders but otherwise definitely Clinton. So where can I meet the central example of people giros describe here: Michael Bloomberg igrls almost a perfect example of both the prototypical blue tribe described by Scott except he drives an Audi, not a Prius, and I have no idea if he likes arugula Charlevoix girls fuck free, and of the more abstract principles I described.
Fuc, believes in technocracy; he replaced school boards with direct personal control, for an example of this principle in action.
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That would be newsworthy. Red Tribe is against some of those positive rights, but lukewarmly for others. I am unaware of any unusual positions he holds with regard to welfare or debt forgiveness. Hillary Clinton is another good example. The list of good examples is pretty much a list of the best-known blue-tribe politicians in the country.
The central Adult want sex tonight Aurora NorthCarolina 27806 of a group of millions of people is a famous billionaire and prominent politician? And even he only meets about three quarters of your description?
I rest my case. You have no clue what you are talking about, just a boatload Charlevoix girls fuck free poorly directed or understood resentment. Which is to say, you asked for evidence you would never actually accept. Which way does charity lean? I said where, not who. Charlevoix girls fuck free thought maybe you meant college kids on twitter, which has its own problems but is better than Bloomberg as a central example of anything.
That is not a substantively different question, but essentially every major metropolitan area in the country. Suppose I name a place. Do I Charlevoix girls fuck free your mind?Ladies Want Hot Sex Bay City Michigan 48708
I can believe that you know about whoever lives there. I lived there for a few years.